Wednesday, December 13, 2006

For Great Expectations, you will need to write 20 dialectical journals per section. Your first set will be due January 4th. This is the Thrusday after we get back from break. Please keep in mind what good journals look like. Think of the following:

Are you asking deep questions?
Are you presenting new ideas?
Are you giving and in depth analysis?

If you have any problems e-mail me at charlie_gaare@gfps.k12.mt.us. Good luck! Have a great holiday.

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Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 45 page 393 para 1 "... I made my way to fleet street, and there i got a hackney chariot and drove to the the hummums in covenant garden..."

Is a hackney chariot a different kind of chariot than a regular day chariot? And if so are the Hackney chariots of a lesser quality??

Magnificent O.L. Jones Fresh said...

Chapter 53 Pg. 455 Paragraph 3
"It was beginning to rain fast. Seeing nothing save what I had seen already, i turned back into the house, and stood just within the shelter of the doorway, looking out into the night."

This passage is eerie. It reminds me of when it suddenly gets dark durring the summer. It reminds me of that fleeting sensation when you enter a room you remember. It is building up the foreshadowing to a point that is unamaginable.

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 45 page 395 para last one. "I thanked him for his friendship and caution, and our discourse procedded in a low tone, while i toasted the Aged's sausage and he buttered the crumb of the Aged's roll."

Wemmick in his more friendlier demeanor often discloses much information to pip and he is often very helpful. A sign that he is really pip's friend is by asking yourself, " what does he have to gain by being friends to pip?". It isn't money because he doesn't charge pip for his advice, so what else is there. He must only want pip for his friendship and this shows that he is indeed true to Pip.

Magnificent O.L. Jones Fresh said...

Chapter 53 Pg. 457 Paragraph 5
"You're a liar. And you'll take any pains, and spend any money, to drive me out of this country, will you?" said he, repeating my words to Biddy"

He is straight forward. I had no idea that he was the bad guy. I didn't suspect him. I thought that Dickens would make it complicated, and unsuspected. He made it unsuspected by making it simple. Dickens is genius in so many ways.

Sam the man with a plan said...

Ch 47 page 409 para 2 " My worldly affaairs began to wear a gloomy appearance, and I weas pressed for money by more than one creditor. Even I myslef began to know the want of money..."

This angers me because of the arrogance with which he said it. He act as if he has been above wanting money and that he has just simply deserved it. It shows how truly far gone pip is into the world of the rich and careless.

Magnificent O.L. Jones Fresh said...

Chapter 54 Pg. 467 Paragraph 1
"It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold when it is summer in the light, and winter in the shade."

I know exactly what he is talking about. It is the perfect day. When it is cold in the shade and perfect in the light. There might be snow on the ground, but it is not muddy or wet anywhere. This is a great image.

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 47 page 413 para 9 "Having the reason that i had for beint suspicious, I even suspected this poor acter. I mistrusted a design to entrap me into some admission.Therefore, i glanced at him as we walked on together, but said nothing."

When your guilty suspicion drives you to suspect the ignorant then you are truly in a poor state of mind. Mr. Wopsle isn't the brightest crayon in the box and to suspect him of having the intellect of tricking pip int giving him information while seeming to be on the same side is crazy.

Magnificent O.L. Jones Fresh said...

Chapter 59 Pg. 520 Paragraph 3
"The ground belongs to me. It is the only possession I have not relinquished. Everything else has gone from me, little by little, but I have ket this. It was the subject of the only determined resistance I made in all the wretched years."

To start from scratch is tough. It takes time. To tear down and start from scratch is even harder. They also say you shouldn't fix something thats not broken, but sometimes you need a change.

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 48 page 419 para 4 " Mr. Jaggers had seen me with estella, and was not likley to have missed the sentiments I had been at no pains to conceal. He nodded when i said the subject was painful to me, clapped me on the back, put round the wine aain, and went on with his dinner."

This show of affection is what showed me that jaggers is just a more or less complex form of wemmick. He shows affection in his home but i could not imagine him clappin Pip on the back in his office. Jaggers is mor of a work oriented wemmic and wemmick is more home oriented.

Sam the man with a plan said...

Page 422-3 is a description of estella's mother'strial and Estella's family members parts played in the trial.

This realy is the peice that makes the puzzle complete. Pip's excitement is not at all expected when he finds out that the gir he loves' father is hios benefactor and that his lawyers servant is her mother.Why should he care soo much about the affairs of a women that has blaintly told him that she posses no ability to love?? The completion of one puzzle begins the start of a new one

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 49 page 425 para 11. " I began explaining to her that secret history of the partnership. I had not got far into it when I juged from her looks that she was thinking in a discursive way of me, rather than of what I said. It seemed to be so for, when I stopped speaking, many momentd passed beford she showed that she was concious of the fact."

If Miss Havisham is really trying to be sorry why would she doze off while Pip is explaining something that she asked him to explain?? This is what led me to believe that miss havisham was not changing for the better she was juist doing things to ease her concience befor her death.

Sam the man with a plan said...

Ch 49 page 427 pare 9 " She read me what she had written. and it was direct and clear, and evidently intended to absolve me from any suspicion of profitting by the receipt of the money. I took the tablets from her hand, anf it trembled again, and it trembled more as she took off the chain to which the pencil was attached and put it in mine. All this she did without looking at me."

This again makes me thisk that she was not truly sorry for the pain that she had caused pip and she was just doing stuff for him so when she died it could be with a clear concience.

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 51 page 459 para "He drank again, and became more ferocious. I saw by his tilting of the bottle that there was no great quantity left in it. I distinctly understood that he was working himself up with its contents to make an end of me.I knew that every drop it held was a drop of my life. I knew that when I was changed into a part of the vapour that had crept towards me but a little while before, like my own warning ghost, he would do as he had done in my sisters case- make all haste to the town, made a picture of the street with with him is it, and contrasted its lights and life with the lonley marsh and the white vapour creeping over it, into which i should have dissolved.

I was not that surprised that orlick did it because he was always treating the people around him bad even whe un provoked, so i can I magine how he Felt when he was put out of work by pip

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 51 page 462 para 8 " Trabb's boy- Trabb's overgrown young man now- went before us with a latern, which was the light i had seen come in at the door."

This is like orlick gon right. Although he was not genrally mean Trabb's boy was obnoxious and probably was mad at pip for geting him int trouble with Trabb. But instead of getting drunk and attempting to murder him, he got over it in stride.

SCHIZOPHRENIC MIND said...

~Jessica Kubiak
“Yes; even though I was so wretched in having him at large and near me, and even though I would far rather have worked at the forge all the days of my life than I would ever have come to this!”
Page 363 chapter 41

Pip now longs to be common. He now realizes that there are certain things that come with being fortunate including dealing with the person that supplied him with his riches. Pip doesn’t know how he will be able to pay Provis back. He probably wishes that he would have stayed with Joe and Biddy now.




“’I should have said this sooner...It induced me to hope that Miss Havisham meant us for one another. While I thought you could not help yourself, as it were, I refrained from saying it. But I must say it now.’”
Page 383 chapter 44

Pip finally has the confidence to confess his love for Estella. It is also odd that Pip has such high thoughts of Havisham. Why does he have high thoughts of Havisham? Is he trying to suck up to Miss Havisham? He thinks of her as wanting the two of them to be together, but, she just wanted Estella to break Pip’s heart. What Estella will do now? What will she say? What will become of Pip?




“’When you say you love me, I know what you mean as a form of words, but nothing more. You address nothing in my breast, you touch nothing there. I don't care for what you say at all. I have tried to warn you of this, now, have I not?’”
Page 384 chapter 44

Estella finally breaks Pip’s heart. She is neither mean nor cynical about it, she just, politely as possible, tells him how she feels. I think she feels bad about it, though. She seems a lot different than she was in previous chapters. What will now become of Estella? What about Pip? Will he go back to Biddy? Does he want to go back to Biddy?




“If you want info regarding you Uncle Provis (Magwitch), you had much better come and tell no one and lose no time. You must come alone. Bring this with you.”
Page 445 chapter 52

Will Pip respond to this mysterious letter? Who is the letter from? Will he go to the marshes to seek this person’s information? Could this be some sort of trap? It is kind of odd that he would specifically tell him to ‘come alone’ and ‘tell no one’. How would he know if Pip came alone? I would be hesitant about going without knowing who the person is and going alone.



“’And now, dear Biddy, if you can tell me that you will go through the world with me, you will surely make it a better world for me, and me a better man for it, and I will try hard to make it a better world for you.’”
Page 503 chapter 57

Now that Pip has reconnected with Joe and showed how deeply sorry he was for being ungrateful to him all these years, what will Biddy say about marrying him? I wonder if they will accept this change in him. What will happen if they don’t? This is a tough decision for Biddy because Pip has been mean to her all these years and she does like him as a ‘friend’. What will she choose and why? I don’t know what I would say if I was Biddy but Pip seems to go from Estella to Biddy. He wanted Estella but she is to be married so he goes to the next best thing, Biddy. I wonder if Biddy knows this. This could affect her decision.

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 54 page 480 para 7 " I felt his hand tremble as it held mine, and he turned his face away as he lay in the bottom of the boat, and I heard that old sound in his throat- softened now, like all the rest of him. It was a good thing that he had touched thi point, for it put into my mind what i might not have otherwisw thought of until too late: that he need never know how his hopes of enriching me had perished.

This is Pip's true redemption. He has softened to the max and i feel he has built up his own character finally and can make a decisionbased on his own thoughts rather than his own.

Sam the man with a plan said...

ch 59 page 521 para last one. " I took her hand in mine, and we went out of the ruined place; and as the morning mists had risen long ago as when i had first left the forge, so the evening mists were rising now, and in all the broad expanse of tranquil light they showed to me, I saw no shadow of another parting form her."

I don't know how to explain how i felt about this paragraph. I definitley liked it, loved it, and I got watery eyed reading it. I think that this is A kind of sad happy that if everyone could feel it and have a constant reminder of the feeling, we would all be better for it.

[[kafrin]] said...

chapter 40,Page 322,Para. 2-
"It was with considerable difficulty that I won him over to the assumption of a dress more like a prosperous farmer's; and we arranged that he should cut his hair close, and wear a little powder. Lastly, as he had not yet been seen by the laundress or her niece, he was to keep himself out of thier view until his change of dress was made."

I like how Pip's character is still there, but yet is changing, he's grown up now and you can tell he is trying to be as generous to his beneficter as he can, making sure that he looks less conspicuious and his presence is to be kept on the low down.

kathrin hardy

[[kafrin]] said...

chapter 41,page 329,para.3-
"Herbert recieved me with open arms, and I had never felt before so blessedly, what it is to have a friend. When he had spoken some sound words of sympathy and encouragement, we sat down to consider the question, What was to be done?

Pip, being away from all his former accuaintences for so long has forgotten what it's like to actually have someone who cares for you and someone who he can confide in, herbert is a pretty good guy to Pip.

[[kafrin]] said...

chapter 42,page 340,para.9-
"Young Havisham's name was Arthur. Compeyson is the man who professed to be Miss Havisham's lover."

oh ma gosh. so now that we know the entire deal with the complex relationship structure, it kind of ties in the concept of the world is very small and all the characters in the book, and their purpose.

[[kafrin]] said...

chapter 43,page 342,para.4-
"As he pretended not to see me, I pretended not to see him. I was a very lame pretence on both sides; the lamer, because we both went into the coffee-room, where he had just finished his breakfast, and where i had ordered mine. It was poisonous to me to see him in the town, for I very well knew why he had come."

Even though Pip has made this visit becasue he wishes to leave estella, you can tell he is brutally jealous and i mean it's reasonable, since he liked her from like the minute he saw her. but whatever.

[[kafrin]] said...

chapter 44,page 350,para. 10-
"I dropped my face into my hands, but was unable to control myself better than I could have expected, considering what agony it gave me to hear her say those words. When I rtaised my face again, there was such a ghastly look upon Miss Havisham's, that it impressed me, even in my passionate hurry and grief."


aww i think this is sad, i mean i understand that this is kind of how Biddy must have felt knowing that she liked Pip but he couldn't bring himself to love her back, and he's right when he wished that he could make himself love Biddy, i mean it would have saved him a lot of heart ache. She was so cruel about it. like it meant nothing to her to tell him that she never had any intention of marrying him and that she wished to marry drummle, weird. he's so wierd and she's incredibly stupid. drama. like degrassi.

[[kafrin]] said...

chapter 45,page 356,para. 9-
"He took the toasting-fork and sausage from me as he spoke, and set forth the Aged's breakfast neatly on a little tray. Previous to placing it before him, he went into the Aged's room with a clean white cloth, and tied the same under the old gentleman's chin, and propped him ut, and put his nightcap on one side, and gave him quite a rakish air. Then he placed his breakfast before him with great care, and said,"All right, ain't you, Aged P.?" To which the cheerful Aged replied, "All right, John,my boy,all right!"

i think that Wemmick's dad is the cutest thing ever, and how wemmick is such an amazing person, the wasy he handles things with such care, and how he is so sweet and nice. it's sweet, he's such a cool guy, they both are.

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